Joe Rogan — the most prolific podcast host in the country — said this week President Joe Biden is “out of his mind.”
“We don’t really have a real leader in this country anymore,” he said during his conversation with comedian Iliza Shlesinger. “I mean, you could say Joe Biden is the president, he’s our leader, and you’d be correct on paper. But everybody knows he’s out of his mind.”
“He’s barely hanging in there,” Rogan added.
The 53-year-old podcaster said Americans are “unhinged” right now because we are “not anchored down by a real leader.”
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His comments came after Shlesinger said that, if she could go back in time, she would want to go to the 1960s, describing it as a “formative” time but also a season of intense unrest.
Rogan said he believes history will look back similarly on this era.
Shlesinger decried the fact that so many people now fear being cancelled or having their lives ruined over a single misstep. She also condemned the media, arguing there is “so much fake news” and “so many outlets.”
“It is maddening,” she said. “Regardless of how you believe, you can’t get a straight answer. You can’t even substantiate your own facts with the right facts. It’s hard to drill down those facts.”
It’s even more difficult, as a consumer of information, to find “solid ground” because everyone is walking on eggshells amid the escalating cancel culture.
“If you look at, like, cancel culture, I don’t even think people want an apology in some cases,” Shlesinger said. “They just want to see someone burn.”
Rogan agreed, saying he believes that’s “definitely” the case.
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He also lamented the severe lack of empathy in society today, a phenomenon that has grown partially out of the social media age, when people can attack others anonymously and seemingly without consequence.
“There’s a disconnect between other people that’s happening when you’re attacking someone online,” he said. “They’re not near you, you’re not talking to them. They’re not a human; they are the other, and you can attack them in that way. And if they get taken down, they lose their job, people like it, because it’s like you scored a point. You’re playing a video game. You killed a bad guy.”
Americans in this day and age, Shlesinger said, “love a public hanging … especially if they’re famous, or good-looking, or rich.”
“There’s no accounting for substance, or character,” she said. “It’s just, ‘They upset me, so they gotta go.’”
Rogan said there are “very few people in this day and age who are interested in empathy, [and] that’s a real problem” because “it’s not something that we value.”
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